Q: What is Humanism
all about?
A:
I’ve
at various points in time been involved with the activities of the Humanist
Movement. It is all about humanizing; all about evoking and naturalising human
relationships in such a way as to pursue the common good of the general public.
The
humanist basically tries to seek a psychological, emotional, ecologically
friendly, and if you like, cultural, good of the general public through
different activities, attributes, attainments, commitments, and
self-preservation that promotes a conscious awareness of the self-interest
vis-a-vis the general interest of the public in any given society in such a way
that the interests of any individual do not override the common interests of
the general public.
Q: Is there any
difference between Humanism, Agnosticism and Atheism?
A: I don’t
think there is any significant variation in all of these. Actually, there are
points of intersections. The Atheist does not believe in the existence of God,
and does not believe that there is a supernatural being out there, the agnostic
is not quite sure there is a Godhead or any sort of unseen deity, whereas the
humanist could actually be in any of these folds.
But
whereas the atheist or agnostic can form laws, rules or creeds that are
actually tangential to the general good of the society, the humanist seeks to
pursue creeds or deeds that promote the wellbeing of the generality of the
public.
It
doesn’t really matter what religion, belief systems, cultural systems etc; what
mores, norms, that guide society; the humanists has a set of creed that speaks
to what is perceived as promoting the general good of the public. I think that
is the basic difference.
Also,
humanists do not pursue any religious beliefs or any of the ‘standard’ or
‘traditional’ religious beliefs.
These
three creeds intersect. You may have a humanist atheist or a humanist agnostic.
However, not all agnostics or atheists are humanists. Humanists can be atheists or agnostics in so
far as they pursue creeds that promote the good of the general public.
Q:
How strong is the Humanist Movement in Nigeria in terms of numbers? Is the
movement growing?
A: I
wouldn’t say that the Humanist movement as a group is growing. But I can say
for sure that it is a general or global trend.
People around the world are now shirking
religious beliefs and tenets for individualism, self-consciousness, and a sort
of religious self-determination. People are now able to consciously prescribe
for themselves new norms, laws, and beliefs that they want to adhere to.
I see this happening in different places,
crossing different demography in our society. Basically, I think it is
something far beyond Nigeria. It is a global trend.
Having said that,
it is important to note that as population grows, you also have a corresponding
increase in the number of those who go to church or mosque or have that
attachment to a religious belief or some supernatural being somewhere who helps
them resolve their problems, patent or impractical.
Q:
According to some sources, at least 50% of Nigeria’s population are Christians.
What is your impression of Nigerian Christians?
A: The population of
Christians in Nigeria does not matter; neither does the population of Muslims
matter to me.
What I see is both Christians and Muslims
proselytising, trying to conscript folks who do not lean towards their
religious alignment into their perception of what the society should look like.
In the same vein, I see a lot of deception.
I see a lot of straightjacketing. I see a lot of peer pressure. In fact, there
is a lot of blackmail adopted against those who are not “religious”.
So, in the whole cycle of trying to find
solutions to the myriad of problems that not only bedevils the nation as an
entity but also individuals at their different levels, we have individuals who
believe that all the problems that they have confronted in life may be resolved
by some kind of attachment, or commitment, to some supernatural being, that
they don’t have access to, or cannot realize at any particular time.
They also have this sentimental longing for
religious cleansing through those who are perceived to be appointed agents
(clerics, on all sides of the divide) for this supernatural being that have
been spoken about.
Again, there is no agreement within
Christendom about the nature of this supernatural being that everybody is
expected to worship under that umbrella. You see Catholics having variant
religious modes of worship from the Anglican; the Orthodox contemplation is in
contradiction with the Protestants and those who are moderate Christian
followers.
Then you have Christendom pitted against
Islam in many ways including in the means they try to reach this Godhead to
which both profess obeisance.
The Humanist sees all of these as confusion
that makes people brainwashed into certain mindsets and colours of thinking
that does not allow for some kind of rational thinking, some form of
imaginative or creative assessment of a particular problem with a bid to
finding lasting and enduring solutions to such problems.
Rather than work out the solution to a
particular problem, [Christians] subscribe to abdicate the solution to that
problem to the Godhead that is believed to have all the power to solve that
problem but they can only draw the benefits from the Godhead by providing
certain incentives that makes him to see them as preferred recipients of
auspicious divine intervention in any particular situation that beset them.
Q:
What are the best things that Nigerian Christians have brought to the table in
pursuance of the Nigerian Project?
A:
I
think the things that come out clearly for me is the charity and hope that the
Church and Christendom bring to the table. I think the church has done remarkably
well in that regard.
You can imagine a
situation where the Church is absent and that charity and the hope that things
will be better through the intervention of the Godhead were to be absent. I can
imagine the kind of chaos, the catastrophe into which the country could have
been plunged.
But because we have the Church, we have
people who continue to hope their prayers, their supplications, their various
spiritual and religious rites would one day be accepted and a magic wand or
command statement would change the entire way in which things are done, that
things happen in the country. That is a significant thing that Christendom has
brought to national development.
Of course an extension of that charity is
the fact that some churches offer opportunities and assistance to those who
need it in the society. It reduces the pressure we would otherwise have on the
society. Essentially, they offer solace and consolation from the myriads of
troubles we face daily as a nation.
Q:
The Nigerian Church perceives itself as the moral conscience of society. Do you
think it is living up to that perception?
A:
It
depends on how the society is configured. I think there are lots of
contradictions. A society that is secular cannot look up to the Church as its
compass.
A set of provisions as enshrined in the
Constitution will determine what will become the reference point in terms of
the moral direction for society to follow. Each society will definitely have
its norms and mores that it follows within that context.
It is important to note that there are
societies that are fluid in their regard, or alteration, of the Grundnorm. Where society is flexible and
open to changes, it is easier to accommodate new voices, creeds, and ethos
within its fold. But where a society is xenophobic, it is more difficult and
depends on how these, usually foreign, religions are able to co-locate with
either the individualistic tendencies within the society or the traditional
local religions that is already in existence in that particular society.
A: As an
individual, I have been tolerant of different religious beliefs. I wouldn’t say
there is something particular that puts me off Nigerian Christianity. In
fairness, Nigerian Christians have been quite nice. I’ll rather be tolerant of
their views.
But one thing
that worries me is the newfound inclination towards prosperity in Christendom.
The church
itself is political. When you have two or three individuals communing, politics
abound, even within the family. So the idea of political Christianity is not
bad. If Christendom wants to get involved in politics for the purpose of
protecting the group interest of its members, I don’t see anything wrong with
that.
Q:
Most people I’ve spoken to want to know what Humanists think about life after
death, abortion, same-sex marriage, homosexuality, divorce and capital
punishment. What are your thoughts on these issues?
A: I don’t believe in
life after death. I believe when I die, I die, I go into the ground, I decay
and go back into the earth.
Personally, I don’t support abortion, but I
don’t deride or judge those who do.
I am indifferent about homosexuality and same-sex
marriage. They really don’t affect me so I’m indifferent about them.
I am a
staunch advocate of divorce. If the marriage is not working, I see no reason
why two people should magnet each other permanently because the society expects
it. So, if divorce has to be the way out, I don’t oppose it in any form
whatsoever. I think it should be encouraged provided it will not be abused. I
am not, in anyway, a fan of the union of marriage; hence my position on divorce
could be rationalized.
I can
support capital punishment in some instances. But it depends on the kind of
crimes we are looking at here. If the crime is murder, I think I can support
capital punishment. If it can be proven that it was committed out of the sheer
malice of the individual, not for self-defence or the protection of the life
and property of a group, why not? I think capital punishment should be applied
for very few and justifiable instances.